Release #2 is ready

First of all, thanks to everyone who donated - the Supercard arrived monday and I was able to test and make the changes necessary to add in an appended filesystem for flashcart users and people who have fat library incompatible devices.

Changes in this version:
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- Disks are loaded at startup in the order of their filenames ( disk0.dsk, disk1.dsk, ect… )
- Added romdiskfs build
- Added disk in SRAM for romdiskfs build

As a side note, I have been looking into using the Supercard’s extra ram as a possible method of 4mb emulation.

The first few tests I have done (not with vMac) have been successful and I will begin to do some more tests in the near future.

Mini vMac DS - Release #2
Let me know if there are any problems.

[Added]
You will need to supply your own disk image fir this build aswell, check out my tutorial:
System Disk Tutorial

75 Responses to “Release #2 is ready”

  1. shadow Says:

    Works like a dream ;) fantastic.

  2. zedrac Says:

    Doesn’t work on my EZFlash IV Lite. Boots up in GBA mode, then freezes. :( I made the disk image, and all that.

  3. Lazyone Says:

    I have no idea why it would start up in gba mode, maybe your flashing software does something weird to the file?

    If there are some additional tools I need to build mini vmac with to get it working for that device let me know.

  4. zedrac Says:

    I sent the file with the flashing software, and by just copying it directly to the MicroSD card, same result each time. I don’t think there are additional tools, a fair amount of .ds.gba homebrew works on the EZFlash IV.

  5. accolon Says:

    Great work, I like it very much! :)

    zedrac:
    I had the the same problem on Supercard Lite, it seems that it uses the file extension to identify the ROM type. Simply renaming the file from “filename.ds.gba” to “filename.nds” solved the problem, I didn’t use the patcher. Perhaps this helps on EZFlash IV Lite, too.

  6. Zantagor Says:

    Pretty sweet ;)

    Btw, any news about the next Wolf3d version. ;)

  7. bas Says:

    Sorrie for asking but,

    what files go’s where? in what folder?
    disk0.dsk ?????????? 686.9 KB where
    disk1.dsk ?????????? 747 KB where
    disk2.dsk ?????????? ?? KB where
    mac_hd.img ??????? 50.0 MB where
    vMac.ROM ????????? 135.3 KB Where
    can you dir me out plz.

    got a floppy with a X
    got a blinking floppy with a ?
    got a mac+smile for a sec or 3 returned to a non blinking ?

    how do you switch to the debug screen?

    Oh by the way.. Im using linux and makin this files is inpossible?

  8. mac Says:

    i got os 7 to run grate its to bad theres only 2mb ram so far i hope you can get it to work with m3 two :)

  9. rorixbladewing5 Says:

    How did you get os 7 to work?

  10. mac Says:

    I got the upgrade files from apple.com and update from 6 to 7 ;)

  11. Teo95GR Says:

    Where am I supposed to get the vMac.ROM?
    Do I have to buy a Mac to get that rom?

  12. mac Says:

    to get the rom you need to dump it from a (real) Mac Pluss but you can find back ups here on the net but im not saing were to get it ;)

  13. rorixbladewing5 Says:

    mac: can you link me to the os 7 update?

  14. yggdra M.T Says:

    can not load .img file on Supercard-SD…

    can you fix this problem?

    thanks~^^

  15. mac Says:

    try renaming your .img file to disk0.dsk

  16. yggdra M.T Says:

    i tried,
    the disk icon becomes a computer icon,

    but nothing happen…T.T

  17. Mac OS 7.5 on Nintendo DS at Ministry of Tech Says:

    […] Lazyone has Mac OS 7.5 running on Nintendo DS using MiniVMacDS. Watch below. […]

  18. btermini Says:

    hey lazyone i made a video of my ds running os7.5.5 i think you might like to see it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ejYu9Q0OtE

    Also yggdra M.T name your disk with the os on it to disk0.dsk name the next disk if you use one disk1.dsk ect

  19. rorixbladewing5 Says:

    How do you get the files for os 7.5? I have only managed to find and run os 6.0.8

  20. btermini Says:

    go here http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/System/Older_System/ and download any vershion of os7 you whant and use the
    System Disk Tutorial

  21. rorixbladewing5 Says:

    It doesn’t work, i extract them using aladding expander but i can’t find a System Startup or System additions disk.

  22. star7 Says:

    Help, I am using Supard card sd ver. When booting up in ds, Mini Mac says: Sorry, a system error occurred. Illegal instruction.

  23. star7 Says:

    opps. how can I edit the msg??

  24. Lazyone Says:

    rorixbladewing5: The two disks can be found in the 1.4mb system 6.0.8 images on Apple’s site.
    Make sure you download them correctly using the instructions I gave in the tutorial.

    star7: Use the build for flashcarts on your Supercard SD, a new version which will support reading from the SD will be coming shortly.

  25. rorixbladewing5 Says:

    Lazyone: Sorry, i was reffering to the OS 7.x files. 6.0.8 works fine.

  26. 我不喜欢-Blog » (Video) Mac OS 7.5 on Nintendo DS Says:

    […] Lazyone managed to get MAC OS 7.5 running on his Nintendo DS using MiniVMacDS. Just a quick note, you’ll need to “supply your own Macintosh Plus ROM inorder for this to do anything, and [you] must have a device supported by chishm’s FAT library.” Video demonstration after the jump. Download the program here. […]

  27. sk8brder343 Says:

    I cant seem to get this to work. I have an m3 mini sd. I did everything stated in the file and it loads with just the mouse and nothing else.

  28. Lazyone Says:

    You can try using the flashcart build/instructions, I have updated to the latest fat library so the next release should support more devices reading/writing to the CF/SD.

    For the flashcart build you must remember that your system disk will be read only, you will have a 64kb disk in SRAM though if you want to save something.

  29. dietmar Says:

    It works very good.
    Why not use the Nintendo DS Screen in the “landscape mode”?
    256 x 192
    +256 x 192
    =512×384
    It’s nearly Macintosh Plus display resolution (512*342). The keyboard and the trackpad could be overlaid on the touch screen.
    –dietmar

  30. Lazyone Says:

    Because holding the DS sideways gives a resolution of only 384×256 not 512×384.

    It may be possible to use subpixel rendering to fit the entire screen onto the DS’s display, but I’m not sure how that would look.

  31. dietmar Says:

    Yes, sorry for the calculation ;-)
    But using both screens would still be very nice.

  32. dietmar Says:

    BTW one the original Macintosh design had a 384 x 256 resolution:
    http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Five_Different_Macs.txt
    Ha!

  33. sk8brder343 Says:

    where can i find these flashcart build/instructions?

  34. Lazyone Says:

    Check “windows instructions.txt” in the archive I posted, come to think of it I should have named that differently.

  35. imec Says:

    Hey guys, I am currently experiencing an issue with this program. I have followed the instructions and restarted the whole entire installation multiple times, yet it’s not working. Everytime I run genromfs.exe I recieve the following error:
    21 [main] genromfs 304 _cygtls::handle_exceptions: Exception: STATUS_ACCESS
    _VIOLATION
    1208 [main] genromfs 304 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to genromfs.
    exe.stackdump
    1142844 [main] genromfs 304 _cygtls::handle_exceptions: Exception: STATUS_ACCESS
    _VIOLATION
    1169353 [main] genromfs 304 _cygtls::handle_exceptions: Error while dumping stat
    e (probably corrupted stack)

    I would apreciate it if one of you bright people could assist me with my issue.

    Best Regards,
    ImEc

  36. imec Says:

    bump….
    Sorry for the bump, it looks so amazing I just want to get it to work :(

  37. SyaoranLi Says:

    man, its great… =D i loved it….

    this week I buy my ds and it will be the first aplication on my M3 card XD

    tx so much

  38. SyaoranLi Says:

    man, make a version to use the touch screen =D

    to move and for keyboard when necessary xD

  39. Montero Says:

    The .nds file loads fine. My Mac Plus ROM loads and the Mac bootup starts but NO startdisk is found.

    I get the flashing “?” . I ahve tried renaming the Startupdisk (tried both 6.0.8 and 7.0) to mac_hd.img instead of disk0.dsk but no luck. I ahve the ROM file the -nds file and the diskimage with the Mac Os in the root.

    I use a DS-X cart with firmware 1.0.2.
    It’s like minivmac.nds can’t “see” the Mac Os boot-diskimage.

    Advice? :)

  40. tfurrows Says:

    I am going to try to get this running on my SC SD when it arrives. I have used MiniVMac on my Macbook to run OS7, should be fun on the DS. Keep up the good work, and glad to see you listed as an official port on the MiniVMac website:

    http://minivmac.sourceforge.net/

    Great! Now, have you considered porting CoPilot, xCoPilot or POSE? :-D THOSE would ROCk on the DS… original system had only 160×160 screen resolution, and the apps available are well suited to a handheld device :)

  41. tfurrows Says:

    Can you add a “Donation” link back onto the website? Maybe even multiple links, one to donate to general development, and other links dedicated to your purchased of specific HW for testing/support (for example, I would contribute to the SC DS purchase for you, while others might want to contribute to you purchasing M3 h/w).

    Many thanks for your efforts- I hope you see this through multiple releases and improvements.

  42. tfurrows Says:

    Well, I get the same results as Montero. Using the Supercard SD w/Rumble I get a flashing “?” diskette in the middle of the screen. One thing I did try was renaming the “System Startup” floppy to disk0.dsk, which seemed to _try_ to boot (got the bootup dialog), but then failed with an “illegal instruction” of some sort, asking me to reset.

    I too simply placed the .NDS file, the .DSK file and the .ROM file all in the root of the SD card.

    Montero- did you (or anyone else) ever figure it out? I’m REALLY looking forward to playing with this.

  43. tfurrows Says:

    I should also add that I tried both the straight NDS method and the flashcart/SCSD method (all-in-one file according to instructions), and both give me the flashing “?” disk.

    Let us all know how we can contribute to pushing this to the next version!

  44. wjatr Says:

    Only Mac OS 1.1 and Mac OS 4.1 (usind SC-SD). 1.1f1.1 works better than 4.1f5.5.

  45. Crooked Says:

    First I want to say thanks for making an awsome emulator,those old macs were brilliant.Looking really good.
    I’ve been trying to get this to run inside dualis but it won’t recognize my startup disk. I just really want to see the speed at which it runs(I’m trying to decide what handheld to buy,but really want a DS). I know I’m doing everything correctlly. After a week, I finally figured out how to convert those .SIT files to something vmac 6.0.8 can use. I’ve tested everything within vMac for windows. I’ve checked out vMac at 7.5 and I think staying at system 6 is the only way unless you can get more ram.
    If the compatibilty is the same as regular mini vMac, then this could be the emulator to have for the ds, especially if the speed can be raised.

    thanks again, lazyone! keep up the great work.

  46. juunas Says:

    Thanks for the mini vMac. It’s awesome! Now that I got it to work, I would like to put some software in it. How can I install, like games, to the mac hd? I have the m3 lite & Passcard 3.

  47. online texas hold em Says:

    online texas hold em …

    However online texas hold em…

  48. Tripsk8er333 Says:

    Does it have DLDI support for the M3 DS Simply? :)

  49. demoniac Says:

    Which file is the “mac_romdisk.bin”? I can’t seem to find it, and what should I do with the “mac_hd.img”? I have just created the file, and then I ran the “bin\genromfs -f mac_romdisk.bin -d data -V vMac” and it generated a new “mac_hd.img” file, which cannot be opened in Mini vMac. What should I do with this file?

  50. demoniac Says:

    imec:

    Write “bin\genromfs -f mac_romdisk.bin -d data -V vMac” while your in the Mini vMac folder. Do not write “genromfs -f mac_romdisk.bin -d data -V vMac” while your in the bin folder. I experienced the same problem, but this solved it. The new mac_hd.img will be in the Mini vMac folder.

  51. thepatient321 Says:

    i am at the “?” screen and nothing loads i ghave made the disks and everything else.

    Any help would be much obliged

  52. macsrok410 Says:

    Can anyone please help me? =|
    I have all the files needed to run mini vMac except Aladdin Expander. Can anyone tell me where to download it?

    Also does mini vMac run on Supercard SD? I’m not good at this stuff.

  53. hotaru Says:

    i’m trying to get mini vmac working on my ds with my supercard lite (microsd). when i try to start it, i just get a floppy icon with a flashing question mark (i’m assuming this means it can’t find the disk image). i have a 24mb disk image with system 6.0.8 installed on it named disk0.dsk, and minivmac.nds and vMac.ROM in the root directory of my microsd card. any suggestions?

  54. kintesh Says:

    can some one give me a .zip file that has every thing in it. and i just have to copy those file to my R4DS Micro SD card and it works fine.

    like i dont need to put some file in

  55. penguish Says:

    pleasse help me. I followed your tutorial but i don’t know which file I need to name “disk0.dsk” and which file “disk1.dsk” i have 2 images.

    1 named: vMac.ROM and the other is named: Mac_hd.img . which file should I name disk0.dsk and which file disk1.dsk.

    I would also like to know where I should place these images.

    I copied the whole map Mini vMac in my root system of my M3 adapter SD.

  56. Alessio_89 Says:

    HELP!!! super lazy!!
    the nds file tells me that he can’t locate the machintosh rom
    i followed the tutorial to do the mac image but now i don’t know where toput it or just what to do!! HEELP!!

  57. Alessio_89 Says:

    does here exist an other tutorial to end this process to put the rom on the ds?

  58. Cookies Says:

    I haven’t had much luck with my Supercard Lite Rumble. I can get minivmac.nds to boot no problem, and it starts to laod up fine, untill i get a Disk with a question mark in the middle of the screen and nothing else happens.

    And I have also tried the GBA Flashcart instructions, but as soo as i boot that up, all i get is “Error: Failed to initialize file system”

    Would be because Supercard Lite Rumble doesnt have the extra memory like other Supercards? Otherwise could someone help, because i enjoyed using Mini vMac on my pc ;)

  59. SuperMario Says:

    do u need a supercard?

  60. SuperMario Says:

    where can u get a supercard from?

  61. klyver Says:

    when i boot op i get a screen saying:
    Error: Failed to initialize file system
    i got a R4 card

    Thanks

  62. iamcommie Says:

    I’m having a weird problem. When I run the .nds file I get a black screen on top but I see the “1:1 mouse movement” screen on the bottom. I can switch modes with the L and R buttons but even if I wait a while nothing appears on screen. I am using an R4DS.

    I also have an EZ Flash 3in1 so I followed the windows install instructions and transfered the .gba file to the EZ Flash. That worked except that it said that the disk was not initialized for some reason.

    I have no idea how to fix either problem. For the first problem, I have no feedback at all so I don’t know what to do. In the second problem the disk0.dsk and vMac.ROM are both in the /data/ folder.

    What am I doing wrong?

  63. monster Says:

    i have an r4ds and i am having the same problem as iamcommie.
    -i have created a bootable mac_hd, renamed it disk0.dsk and i have dldi patched minivmacds, and yet after placing

    vMac.ROM

    disk0.dsk

    minivmacds.nds

    in the root of my card it shows the same screen iamcommie saw:
    a black screen on the top, with a 1:1 mouse movement on the lower.

    am i placing the files in the wrong place? if so, where do i place them - it was not clear in the readme.

    Please help!

  64. Tripsk8er333 Says:

    Hey, I have a M3 DS Simply(R4) and I am having the same Problem as everyone else. I have created all of the files and Disks I need to run it. I also have a Ez 3 in 1 Gba Ram expation so I know it is not a memory problem. I got the “Test version” to work Great!!:) . But I have no idea what I did Wrong. Can Anyone help all of US with a R4/M3 DS Simply.

    Thanks in Advance.

  65. Tripsk8er333 Says:

    Hey, I have a M3 DS Simply(R4) and I am having the same Problem as everyone else.

    Error: Failed to initilize file system

    I have created all of the files and Disks I need to run it. I also have a Ez 3 in 1 Gba Ram expation so I know it is not a memory problem. I got the “Test version” to work Great!!:) . But I have no idea what I did Wrong. Can Anyone help all of US with a R4/M3 DS Simply.

    Thanks in Advance.

    SORRY!! for the Double POST.

  66. adbnd Says:

    I got a memory error:

    “No supported external memory found.”

  67. zzasd Says:

    Hey, I have a M3 DS Simply(R4) and I am having the same Problem as everyone else.

    Error: Failed to initilize file system

    I have that same same problem too with M3 simply?
    What have to do?

  68. kimset Says:

    For some reason when I try and load it on the Games ‘n’ Music Cartrage, the graphics glitch out all red blue and green.
    Works fine with the mini vmac pc just messes out on the ds help please
    bin
    data
    vmac.rom
    mac_hd.img
    minivmac.nds
    system additions
    system startup
    What else do I need? I installed the OS on the mac_hd.img
    Help please — Email Piysta@yahoo.com!

  69. kimset Says:

    I keep getting a memory error with slot 2, guess you need a ram expansion =( Anyway heres a tutorial to set up on Games ‘N’ Music - Sure it will work with other .NDS readers.
    ================================================
    1. Download vMac os 6.0.8 DS v1.0.rar from http://kintesh.110mb.com/nds_dsapps.htm and extract the files.
    2. Go online and look for the ROM file, its illegal to share it so I can’t give you a direct link, but I’m sure google has it.
    3. Download Mini vMac for your operating system from http://minivmac.sourceforge.net/download.html and extract the files.
    4. Run Mini vMac (Computer Version) and click File, Open Disk Image. Then locate and load Disk0.dsk.
    5. Double click on the System Startup Icon the desktop, make sure everything works.
    6. Now you want a harddrive, go and download Dummy File Creator
    http://www.mynikko.com/dummy/ and extract it.
    7. Install the creator or extract it, whatever version you downloaded and double click to run the program.
    8. With dummy file creator make a file named mac_hd.img from 5-200mb in size. Place that and create it somewhere you wont forget.
    9. Load mac_hd.img you just made onto the Mini vMac Computer Version a error will pop up saying this is not a mac disk. Initailize it. Then it will say it will erase all data on it, erase it. Now put in the name of the harddrive you would like. Now you have a new icon on the desktop which can be used as a hard disk.
    10. Drag and drop the vMac.rom, Disk0.dsk and Mini vMac.nds to your ds cartridge and wala! You should have a working version of mini vmac!
    (Without the extra harddisk then you only get about 50Kb of room!)
    If a memory error comes up like it does on mine then I don’t know what to tell yeah because I get the error too lol. I think you need a slot 2 (GBA) ram extesion cartrage which would REALLY suck because there expensive. =( Feel free to add onto this if you have problems / easier ways of doing things! Also: the System Startup should have a folder that is named ‘Apps’ that has MacDraw and MacPaint in it. Enjoy! -Version 3.0 on the kintesh.110mb.com website has a butt load of games if you want those-

  70. charlie861i Says:

    Hi, can someone link to the aladdin expander 5.0 please? Even if it is just a trial version I cannot find it anywhere.
    Or, could someone link to the two disks, system - something and the system additions disks that have been extracted and converted to .dsk please?
    Many thanks.
    Alternativly, you could email me a link to charlie861i@googlemail.com

  71. ahurst Says:

    charlie861i: Your disks are in the mail… :)

  72. amp0693 Says:

    Here is the deal, I have no clue where to start with this application and I would love it if somebody could just upload the whole build with all the disk crap to rapidshare. If you do upload it to rapidshare please send me a link, if not I would love some help with this.

  73. amp0693 Says:

    Actually just post the link not send it to me

  74. newton2100 Says:

    It is displayed though I tried as Failed to initialize file system. What is the cause?Please tell me.

  75. davelorho Says:

    can i not get it working from os x? i need windows to make this work? i have the old one working just fine, u didnt need any mac_romdisk.bin or whatever. i cannot create these files. could someone send them to me?

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